tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5016245466912407364.post3517993353530441824..comments2024-01-06T17:38:53.551-05:00Comments on Poli-Tea: The Political Inquisition at the Daily Kos: Diarist Forced to Publicly Recant Third Party Proposald.erishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09186054212519025557noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5016245466912407364.post-38049980692229896152011-04-19T16:41:08.873-04:002011-04-19T16:41:08.873-04:00Oh and btw, thanks for the interview, I'll giv...Oh and btw, thanks for the interview, I'll give it a look now!TiradeFactionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06760660346802297769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5016245466912407364.post-16557845094781932232011-04-19T16:40:31.441-04:002011-04-19T16:40:31.441-04:00Yeah, Eliot Cutler is whom I was thinking, I could...Yeah, Eliot Cutler is whom I was thinking, I couldn't remember the name (was working on purely by memory, and I live on the opposite side of the nation from Maine). This is really just a wild guess, but perhaps one of the reasons they are more independent of the duopoly in that region is they have maintained (somewhat) the old colonial American practice of "self governance". VermontTiradeFactionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06760660346802297769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5016245466912407364.post-57524614448930105242011-04-19T16:35:47.779-04:002011-04-19T16:35:47.779-04:00I closely followed Eliot Cutler's campaign in ...I closely followed Eliot Cutler's campaign in Maine and even <a href="http://thirdpartydaily.blogspot.com/2010/06/exclusive-interview-with-eliot-cutler.html" rel="nofollow">interviewed him for TPID</a> last June. (By their own logic, Maine Democrats who voted for the Dem gov candidate in fact voted for the Republican by not voting for the Independent lol). There are currently elected d.erisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5016245466912407364.post-6436676903823109482011-04-19T15:58:25.444-04:002011-04-19T15:58:25.444-04:00@D.eris You'd assume right. Both Vermont and M...@D.eris You'd assume right. Both Vermont and Maine for example, have a fairly recent trend of openness in regards to third parties and independents. Why this is I can't say for sure, but with VT, you have the Progs, and Maine, you have a long history of voting in Independents into office there (and if not, usually strong polling, an Independent there recently got I believe something like TiradeFactionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06760660346802297769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5016245466912407364.post-30851158139712010602011-04-19T15:52:05.113-04:002011-04-19T15:52:05.113-04:00I'd definitely be interested in hearing what y...I'd definitely be interested in hearing what you come up with if you look into the VT Progressives more closely, TF. Generally speaking, it seems like there is a greater openness to Independent and third party candidates among voters in the Northeast than elsewhere in the country, but that's just an impression. <br /><br />DLW, I definitely agree that such partisan discipline is d.erisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5016245466912407364.post-12476150715356618182011-04-19T14:47:33.831-04:002011-04-19T14:47:33.831-04:00@D.eris Yeah, the proposal by the Daily Kos kid wa...@D.eris Yeah, the proposal by the Daily Kos kid was indeed absurd, but it does highlight the policies of the website, and the fact it's not really a "grassroots" effort. Again, thank you for documenting it here. <br /><br />I enjoyed the Lenin piece a lot, thank you for linking it to me :) <br /><br />As for the VT progs, I'm not really sure, I guess it's a mix of ignorance TiradeFactionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06760660346802297769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5016245466912407364.post-28495503129341654262011-04-19T14:37:47.299-04:002011-04-19T14:37:47.299-04:00There's nothing wrong with intra-party discipl...There's nothing wrong with intra-party discipline and/or enforcement of rules at a partisan blog. So long as we get more pluralism in our politics through the diversification of the election rules used, folks will have adequate exit-threat from the major parties.<br /><br />dlwDLWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17709279441985086959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5016245466912407364.post-35766196939502036532011-04-19T13:49:45.873-04:002011-04-19T13:49:45.873-04:00TF, you make a good point about the "party üb...TF, you make a good point about the "party über alles" crowd among the Dems and Reps. Actually, last year, I wrote a post comparing the GOP infiltration strategy of misguided tea party activists with that of Vladimir Lenin's vanguard party strategy, which you might find amusing (see: <a href="http://politeaparty.blogspot.com/2010/02/tea-party-bolshevism-or-infiltrationist.html" reld.erisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5016245466912407364.post-22558388358558692462011-04-19T13:37:21.231-04:002011-04-19T13:37:21.231-04:00Sam, I was actually thinking a little bit about th...Sam, I was actually thinking a little bit about that point as I was writing the post. At DK and RS you can make the most outlandish statements about your duopolist counterparts, up to and including the most outrageous insults (ex. goat fuckers, pedophiles and so on), but suggest a plan to modestly change the partisan composition of the government toward a multiparty state and YOU'RE OUTTA d.erisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5016245466912407364.post-72983008395259167382011-04-19T00:44:50.113-04:002011-04-19T00:44:50.113-04:00Can't say I'm surprised at all, DailyKos i...Can't say I'm surprised at all, DailyKos is a sort of propaganda training mill masquerading as a "Grassroots" bottom up effort. It's honestly fairly creepy how far they take their devotion to their particular political party (Democrats), insofar that their entire political lives seem to focus on it, not unlike fascist states where the party is "everything". I'mTiradeFactionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06760660346802297769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5016245466912407364.post-15528226129496287772011-04-18T21:44:24.843-04:002011-04-18T21:44:24.843-04:00I encountered that attitude during my brief time a...I encountered that attitude during my brief time as a Kos diarist. The forced loyalty to party that prevails there and at Red State follows inevitably from the real purpose of each site. At Kos the purpose is to whip up hate and fear of the Republicans, while Red State does the same with Democrats. When one party is to be kept out of power at all costs, the pressure becomes inexorable to support Samuel Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00934870299522899944noreply@blogger.com